The building with the globe is the former Palais De Danse, opened in 1925 as a dance hall and billiard saloon, in the late 1980s the If I remember Monday Night was for a younger crowd and we were always trying to get in the Bali Hi downstairs. 85 Sandy Melville (b. One of the first was introduced at Mecca's flagship hall, the Locarno in Streatham, south London, in 1931.Footnote 26 Its purpose was twofold. not the Lion. "useRatesEcommerce": false The dance hall's world of luxury and escape was fully in tune with the new consumerism. However, this was a temporary structure, not a permanent dance hall. History. Hello Bill, Im not 100% sure but I think it very likely that the Mansfields did play the Palais at some stage or other. The designs also included a health centre, squash courts, gym and rooftop gardens. 24 Duncan, Andrew, Hammersmith's Palaces of Pleasure, Hammersmith and Fulham Historic Buildings Group Newsletter, 12 (Spring 2005), p. 4Google Scholar. Keith replaced Ric Lee on drums after he moved on to greater fame and fortune. your own Pins on Pinterest 87 Richards, Jeffrey, The Age of the Dream Palace: Cinema and Society in Britain, 19301939 (London, 1984), pp. I thought "Statue" was great at the time, now it doesn't seem to have any soul at all. 'Hanford and Richards' on, I think, Columber St is something I recall when learning to dance. Then at quarter to two, a special moment. Throughout the interwar period, leading dance bands were resident in elite nightspots: for example, Roy Fox at the Monseigneur Restaurant; Ambrose and his Orchestra at the Mayfair Hotel; and both Jack Hylton and the Savoy Orpheans at the Savoy Hotel.Footnote 15 These well-known dance venues (increasingly popularised by live outdoor broadcasts on the new BBC and by newspaper reports) offered inspiration for public dance halls of more diverse working-class origins. Powered by Invision Community, Fly Fishing, Golf, Gardening, Reading, 1960s Music, Gilbert & Sullivan, Cricket, Notts County, Archery, Railways, Movies, Art, Travel. 60 Nottingham Evening Post, 9 February 1929, p. 5. Suprised not to have crossed paths again recently. 9) featured a Canadian maple dance floor, a revolving bandstand, elegant boudoirs for ladies and stag rooms for gentlemen, a club room with lounge and bars, refreshment bars and buffets, stepped balconies with tables, an open-air dancing terrace, and a starry ceiling over the dance floor incorporating hundreds of tiny coloured lights.Footnote 51, Fig. 53 The Builder, 14 November 1924, p. 759. With a revolving bandstand, a second band could set up in the background while the first was still performing and be brought to the audience at the press of a switch. The so-called dance craze spread rapidly. 11 See Atwell, David, Cathedrals of the Movies (London, 1981)Google Scholar; Eyles, Allen, ABC: The First Name in Entertainment (London, 1993)Google Scholar; Gaumont British Cinemas (London, 1996)Google Scholar; The Granada Theatres (London, 1998)Google Scholar; Odeon Cinemas 1 (London, 2002)Google Scholar; Gray, Richard, Cinemas in Britain: One Hundred Years of Cinema Architecture (London, 2011)Google Scholar; Harwood, Elain, Picture Palaces (London, 1999)Google Scholar. 17).Footnote 83 The rococo-style mirrors had lights above with tasselled fabric lampshades, and sconces in between. 17. They did not develop in a logical sequence over time, however, but responded to changing social and economic patterns. All About the SOUL. Both moved on from the band around 1967 to have successful careers in business. That was the famous and now legendary sign located above the entrance to the Nottingham Palais de Danse one of the many traditional dance hall venues owned by the Mecca Leisure group. Like you said they where playing at other venues so it really does come down to where you heard them as to where you get the memories, Outsiders, JC Messina, Kelly St Claire , Gerri Thomas, Harry Betts, John Hendley, Barnaby Bye, Frankie Crocker, Three Degrees (Contact), The Apollas , Billy Purcell, Bobby Diamond, KIki Dee, + lots more, all massive records at T'palais .. love em or hate em, they were a part of the scene in those days, still very vivid to this day, Ian. Regular contributor, Michael Clarke, caught up with Adrian Tilbrook, who was the bands drummer at the Humberstone Gate Mecca dance hall in 1968-69. 34750. Required fields are marked *, I consent to my name and e-mail address being stored along with this comment, and to the website editors communicating with me by e-mail about the comment if necessary. 22 Morton, Francis Junior, and Co, Sprung Floors for Dancing (London, c. 1925), p. 2Google Scholar. I have a long and fond relationship with the old Notts Palais. Extremely ambitious lighting schemes began to be deployed in the late 1950s, led by the Mecca group. No Sunday shopping throngs back then, just a feeling of having the city to ourselves. Purpose-built dance halls had a confident street presence that was not always the case with conversions. The Palais was an enormous dance hall, capacity probably 3000, oblong in shape, with a surrounding balcony, where we would sit, eye up the talent, spot someone you fancied and make a beeline downstairs to get them up to dance. 95 MOA, WC, 48/C, Observations of Saturday Night, 3 April 1937, pp. You cannot paste images directly. We were privileged to meet and talk at length with Stuart Lane and Keith Williams (both guitar players in the group). I often wondered if other people would put the same records to the same venue (they were obviously played elsewhere at the time). In the 1920s, borrowing from US cinema designs, atmospherics was widely used to create escapism in the dance hall.Footnote 87 This design trend was about bringing the outside inside, with interiors made to resemble Spanish patios or Italian villa gardens (as seen in the Spanish Hall at the Winter Gardens in Blackpool, and the Italianate lake backdrop on the main stage in the Tower Ballroom). "The bouncers used to bet us we would miss the change over but, thankfully, we always made it back on stage in time. The floor could be adjusted to provide varying degrees of springiness, and locked to prevent movement when not required for dancing.Footnote 23, The space above the dancers heads was just as important as that beneath their feet. met my girlfriend of the time Sue Elliott daughter of Gerry Elliott ex sheriff of Nottingham and overman down Gedling pit, nearly crapped myself when I started working there and saw him. Palais De Danse, Lower Parliament Street, Nottingham Rotating dance floor at the Palais! Your link has been automatically embedded. As a result of these requirements, large public halls, transport sheds or former factory buildings such as mills proved popular for conversion.Footnote 24 The Hammersmith Palais emerged from a former tram depot, the Carlton in Rochdale (opened in 1934) was located in a disused mill, and the Bury Palais (which opened around the same time) brought back to life a disused railway engine shed.Footnote 25. Especially in new buildings, which were liable to If any body remembers me Mansfield, Blidworth, Rainworth areas ladies and gents Hello. Not very active now. 18 The expression palais de danse was introduced by the owners to add an air of French sophistication and subsequently came into common usage in Britain. The Music Hall and Theatre 72 Ibid. Its emergence and popularity following the First World War reflected improvements in the social and economic well-being of the working and lower-middle classes. During the late 1980s the Palais de Danse reinvented itself as a popular nightclub venue. Nottingham, Family, Originally named the Palais de Danse when it opened The largest entertainment venue in Europe at the time, it included an ABC cinema with over 800 seats, a Locarno ballroom, a Silver Blades ice-skating rink, a casino and several licensed bars, all served by a large multi-storey car park. Best two sounds for me that will always be associated with that famous venueare Dena Barnes, If you ever walked out of my life and the brilliant dancer Chubby Checker, You just don't know. I still have that velvet bow tie locked away in a box of keepsakes and memories. Its emergence and popularity following the First World War reflected improvements in the social and economic well-being of the working and lower middle classes. I believe he was a big pusher of that particular tune. Many readers will remember The Ivor Kenney Sound, the resident band, during the 1960s and 70s, at Leicesters Palais de Danse. Are nurses striking in Leicestershire this week? See also Harwood, Elain, Space, Hope and Brutalism: English Architecture, 19451975 (London, 2015), p. 317Google Scholar. This ballroom dancing hall had an unusual dance floor created from oak and walnut mounted on 560 spiral springs, an area of 6309 superficial feet which could hold approximately 600 dancers. Ling, recognising that the removal of traffic might leave the precinct empty once the shops were closed, worked hard to keep the area alive by introducing new uses to the precinct. The interior of the Nottingham Palais (Fig. 84345. Using a completely new set of body movements, the dances were also far freer and open to individual interpretation.Footnote 96 The dance hall offered an outlet for ways of moving and behaving that would not be possible or acceptable outside its walls. Then I received a call to join Val Doonicans backing band, the John Currie Quartet, full-time. Returned to the Palais when I finished working there and remember seeing Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers one night. Is the building still there in Mansfield and if so what is it used for now? I used to walk up from Mansfield Woodhouse. had some great nights in the pub, very small, tables to the left, bar to the right just enough room to walk through. 5). Patrons of different classes were often segregated by temporal and spatial means. Consumerism expanded, with home ownership among manual workers reaching 40 per cent by 1962.Footnote 80 The architecture of the dance hall reflected this further democratisation of pleasure, the new centrality of the working class to national life, and a new version of modernity. The Palais de Danse, built by Midland Palais de Danse Limited, opened on the corner of King Edward Street, John Street and Convent Street (now Upper Parliament Street) on 24 April 1925. It was originally designed as a dance hall and billiard saloon. Sequence dances, where everyone performed the same steps, gave way to dances formulated specifically for couples, which involved much greater physical contact between partners the Bunny Hug and the Grizzly Bear, for example, required dancers to embrace. I used to go to Hanford & Richards mid forties early fifties. It was that popular at weekends that traction put on late night buses to get us home to all the surrounding villages, This was quite a place, I remember wanting to go there with my brother. Happy days. Then we would amble up through Hockley. As with many other aspects of the dance-hall business, the Mecca group was at the forefront of developments, most notably introducing the revolving bandstand. 19 The Much of my Northern Soul early life centered around the Palais All Dayers, mid to late seventies. As contemporaries noted, a principal function of the dance hall was to offer an escape. In September 1931, the Nottingham Palais paid more than 1000 laying a new dance floor, and in October 1933 the Hammersmith Palais spent 5000 on a maple floor.Footnote 19, The installation of dance floors required consideration of several crucial issues. Our first opportunity to assess the size of the queue and who we could spot. 27 TWA, DT.Tur/4/AG1833/d, Mayfair Ballroom, Newcastle Stage (1961). I emigrated to Australia in 1972 but have very fond memories of those times. The New Bristol Centre was perhaps the zenith of these multi-purpose buildings. Its very interesting that people remember so much about the Palais, Ive a quantity of records of band stuff, payments for wages etc, and heard of the antics of many. Very special memories of the old place including the performers and of course themusic! 89 Dancing Times (October 1931), pp. 1821Google Scholar. 2,376 talking about this. Details Jan 13, 1998 The line-up of the orchestra had changed, also the name Carmen Sylva (for his orchestra) vanished. We used to go to most of the Nottingham ballrooms,The Palais, The Queens , The Elizabethan Rooms, The Sherwood Rooms Etc. Enhancing the escapism of the dance hall were the crucial sensory pleasures it provided. The Leeds Locarno also had an Americana food bar and Flamingo coffee bar, all indicative of a popular interest in travel and the exotic. My future wife, Sylvia Chesterman was from Alfreton and I was born in Mansfield many years ago! Good times. A few couples sit out talking [] Past them one can see heads sailing past serenely floating (the good dancers) or bobbing jerkily (beginners). And of course by 1.30pm that queue was lost around the corner and the back of the building. The popularity of dancing just after the First World War led to an initial rush by entrepreneurs and dancing masters to convert as many buildings as possible. 2), is a good example from the dance hall's final era.Footnote 27 The tiered stage was decorated with a diamond pattern inlaid in metal against black, while the stage surround was constructed from wooden batons finished with shiny copper banding decorated with stylised stars. 11) was characterised by the eclectic deployment of neoclassical, Art Deco, oriental and even Pre-Raphaelite motifs.Footnote 58 At the centre of the dance floor was an illuminated fountain, which could rise to 12ft, surrounded by plants. We used to go to "grab a granny night" on Thursday nights and a nod to Mick always got my mate and I in for free. It had a small revolving circular dance floor. Juni begann Beyonc den dritten Teil ihrer Tour in den USA und beendete diesen mit einem viertgigen Auftritt im Encore Las Vegas Doesanyone remember the Mansfield and the Sons and Lovers playing there? I do have a strong memory of seeing Jimmy James & The Vagabonds at The Palais. Hi Bill and John. cheers John.It was a good pub the Horse and Jockey. Love reading this kind of thread, thanks! New dances were formulated to accompany the new music and were deliberately designed for couples (most notably the foxtrot). They changed their name ten years after they started. Your post is pure nostalgia. Should be a fantastic read so look out for it. Finally Hockley was left behind and the Palais loomed into view in all her magnificence and glory. 5. 14 Richardson, Philip, A History of English Ballroom Dancing (19101945): The Story of the Development of the Modern English Style (London, 1945), pp. A strange but belting instrumental. You know that sign really should have been written "Through these doors pass some of the most beautiful SOULS in the world", heres a photo of some of the Palais staff circa 1974. Not now but used to be, Cycling C.T.C.,Badminton,Judo and Karate,Holidays,Dancing modern at first then old time and sequence. In a music career spanning more than 54 years, Adrian has worked with many of the best known names and musicians in showbusiness. Although dance halls were comparatively egalitarian spaces, this quality should not be overstated. We also played the Festival Hall, Kirkby as well as many pubs and clubs in the area. 4145CrossRefGoogle Scholar. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. The floor was both one of the principal technical challenges for the architect of a dance hall and a principal attraction for customers. Affordable luxury was a key part of their attraction. On their first trip into Nottingham he and a group of other airmen enquired where the action was. Palais de Dance The old Victoria Hall had been taken over by Mr and Mrs HG Roscoe in September 1929 and re-christened the Palais de Danse. They also said they played the Palais regularly amongst many local and national venues. I bought myself a pair and used to change my socks in the toilet when I got there and again on the way home! Memories from 1959 I met a tall good looking lady at the Palais de Dance in 1959 married her in 1961 and we headed to New Zealand in 1962. It is an odd omission, as the architecture of pleasure has generated a growing body of scholarship. 75962. I have a long and fond relationship with the old Notts Palais. lol anyway attende every palias dayer and all the niters that followed d.jed ther in the bali hi saturday nie session i used to run in the early 80''s we used to do that then get a taxi to stafford's top of the world awesome times used to attend with mick .h ,dennis lambert , shaun turner, dave taylor ,tony garnett, the brit crowd of the day plus the colemans regulars. That was the famous and now legendary sign located above the entrance to the Nottingham Palais de Danse one of the many traditional dance hall venues owned by the Mecca Leisure group. Gail and Jackie Searcy, Dave and Kev Husbands, Pete and Chris Smith, Tommy Cragg, Andy Cannon, Colin Shipstone, Mick Hancock, Tony Allen, Martin Green, Curly, Podgy (Simon Hodgkinson??) Luxe-modern, everyday glamour at the Mayfair dance hall, Newcastle, 1961 (Tyne and Wear Archives and Museums), Equally impressive were the elaborate powder rooms, which included free-standing make-up stations decorated with pink candy-stripe wallpaper and topped with swags of white fabric (Fig. Got P**d off with meeting Paper Lace.our chargehand 'slothead' at bell fruit was the drummers dadso they were always being pushed on us. The dance hall was a symbol of social, cultural and political change. Like music halls, public dance facilities for the lower classes often began as spontaneous get-togethers in public houses and other public places, where singing and common instruments provided music to dance to. Worked in the downstairs bar. The History of the British Holiday Camp (London, 1986)Google Scholar. I worked at the Palais for many years. In November 1929, the Stage Guild held its annual ball at the palais, with guests including Prince Paul of Greece.Footnote 61 A generation earlier, such events would have been held exclusively in country houses, private clubs, grand assembly rooms or private ballrooms. 6 City of Birmingham Archives, PS/B 4/1/1/4, Nineteenth Annual Report of the Public Entertainments Committee of Justices (1936), and Glasgow City Archives [hereafter GCA], E 7/4/1, Registers of Music Halls etc, 193452. The dcor was a patterned backcloth, reminiscent of bubbles of water, based on Roy Lichtenstein's painting Landscape with Boat. It was the first palais de danse [nb 1] to be built in Britain. I used to work part time evenings in the bar at the Palais during the 1960s. It was designed by Gillinson, Barnett & Partners and developed by Mecca at a cost of 2 million. I know Curly is around and about, just not bumped into each other yet but I'm sure we will soon. And what about Lainie Hill "Time Marches On". Anyone remember any of these bands? Sure I remember the manager winding us up, walking along the queue saying if our shoes not polished were not getting in ;-) First place I met Shippo, remember Kempy, Tommy Cragg and Kevin Husbands too, no one would forget Curley of course. Used to love it. Your email address will not be published. For example, at Tony's Ballroom in Birmingham, in the mid-1930s, there were two halls with sumptuous interiors on an Eastern theme. Palladium is one of six metals belonging to the platinum family, and it has a melting point of 2831 degrees Fahrenheit. Elvis Presley Fans Dance On A Traffic Island Outside The Palais De Danse Hall in Nottingham. Heimann had been inspired by seeing such facilities on various tours of the US during the 1940s and 1950s.Footnote 84 Similarly, in Dundee dance halls in the 1950s, automated perfume machines could be found in the women's cloakrooms, which gave a spray of Yardley's Lily of the Valley when a coin was inserted.Footnote 85, Fig. Naturally he played his big hits such as 'I'll go where the music takes me' but we also got 'This heart of mine' and a favourite of mine from school days 'A man like you'. The Jubilee Hall, which was the Co-op, and the Corporation Hall. The Palais De Dance with Jack O'Boyle. Exact figures for the numbers of dance halls built are hard to come by. Personally, one of my fave records from the Palais dayers was Toni Basil's "Beakaway". "Their organist was Graham Elliott, who I used to practise jazz with during the daytime in the large, empty Palais hall.. I took Sharon by the hand, tapped Mark on the shoulder and told everyone we'd see them shortly and that was it, the 3 of us heading straight to the front doors, and in. Good post mate. May 14, 2012 In The Nottingham House of Correction on St Johns Street is now the modern day junction of Glasshouse Street and King Edward Street where the club sits. They used to have a Friday night dance with a better ratio of girls to guys. The Leicester Palais (Fig. My name may be published alongside the comment on the website, but my e-mail address will not be published. I started going in spring 1980. On its growth in northern English towns in 1920, the Cheltenham Chronicle commented: Dancing, with the pictures and football, fill in all the non-working hours in our great manufacturing towns, and, as a consequence, dancing masters not only teach the young how to step, but provide handsome dancing halls for them. He opened its first dance hall, Sherry's, in Brighton. Can anyone remember Reg Guest Trio and Ian King Trio? The Palais De Danse, Upper Parliament Street. Must have enjoyed myself because I remember it so well. We would always aim to get in the queue early and watch it build as worshipers from all over arrived. Each night of the week targeted a different audience. 48 Daily Mirror, 12 February 1960, p. 23. 54 Brodie, Antonia, ed., Directory of British Architects 18341914, 2 vols (2001), II, p. 809Google Scholar, and Nottingham Civic Society, Draft List of Local Heritage Assets of the City of Nottingham, 9 December 2013. Privacy Statement - opens in a new window, Community website is a hit in Mansfield and overseas, December 2005 - A Happy Event in Forest Town Welfare, The Hippodrome / Century / Granada Bingo - Midworth Street Mansfield. During the Second World War it was requisitioned by the Army as a dining area for the troops stationed in the town. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. 199204. 9298. 3. It was just like being in the Palais in 69 again except for the white hair ( on me as well as some of the band ). What happened to them? . The lighting comprised a series of large exotic lamps in translucent glass, decorated with a mixture of Art Deco and oriental patterns to resemble stylised Chinese lanterns, supplemented by the dramatic use of changing coloured spotlights focused on the dance-floor fountain. 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Fig. It began with new musical styles: ragtime, then jazz. Adrian, who now lives in Durham, joined Ivor following a summer season at Torquay. Will be playing both (plus some Syvie Vartan) at True Blue at the Albany Club in Coventry on 16/12/16. Promotional literature for the Locarno, Stevenage, 1961 (Museum Services, Stevenage, Hertfordshire), Opened in April 1925, the Nottingham Palais de Danse typifies the purpose-built dance hall from the height of the dance craze in the mid-1920s. I played the Palais 7 times and here are the dates and the band, 29/04/1966 (Carl Pagan and the Heathens). The way in which the space was used also differed according to class. 3738Google Scholar. Yep I went to the dayers and nighters. I went by the nickname "Bonk" back then if that rings any bells. In the 1970s the main front was rebuilt. I was a regular for four years from 1976 so not quite the golden KTF period. hasContentIssue true, CONVERSIONS AND THE BEGINNINGS OF THE DANCE HALL, DANCE HALLS AND THE MULTI-PURPOSE COMPLEX, Copyright The Society of Architectural Historians of Great Britain 2018. And another one on my list! Palais de Danse Nottingham c1925 www.picturethepast.org.uk Nottingham s Palais de Danse opened on the corner of King Edward Street, John Street and Convent Street Under new management, the Palais continued as a ballroom but was converted, after damage by vandals in 1973, into a bingo hall and used as such throughout the 70s and 80s. Render date: 2023-01-18T17:37:19.143Z E.g Love On A Mountain Top (with some solid clapping) and Everything's Gonna Be Alright. Munro, Malcolm, Dancing Mad: An Autobiographical Dancing Diary (Liverpool, n.d.), p. 181Google Scholar. [5], In 1957, the name was changed to the Sherwood Rooms. The one who lived down Colwick was still doing a solo turn in pubs and clubs, a couple of the others still toured as "Paper Lace" and did an absolutely brilliant version of "The Sabre Dance". 6. Frank Hanford used to run it but Dorothy Richards I never saw. As an employee we were not allowed to go there socially so it was off to Coleman's on our nights off or usually Sunday nights I think. 14. For example, the New Survey of London Life and Labour, conducted in 1928, found that, To-day dancing as an active recreation appeals to many people of all classes [] The dance-halls are within the range of nearly everybody's purse, and typists, shop assistants and factory girls rub shoulders in them [] People drop into a palais after the day's work or on Saturday evenings as casually as they go to a cinema.Footnote 77. 36 Dancing World (AugustSeptember 1921), p. iv. I remember the Jbirds and also my late husband Johnny Gold playing there. There were also fancy steelwork stools, and the floor was covered by a large floral carpet. The Crystal Palace, a few yards to the right on the corner of Parliament St.was The Corner Pin and lower down Clumber St. was the (Red) Lion, Co;emans was on a tiny sidestreet called Maypole Yard. 16 See Walton, John K., The Re-making of a Popular Resort: Blackpool Tower and the Boom of the 1890s, Local Historian, 24 (1994), pp. One of the few times I trod on no one's toes! One record that always reminds me of the Palais on a Monday Night was Jackie Edwards - Feel So Bad, this was way back in the late 60's and early 70's. A very popular and lively venue, especially when run (from 1991) by Nottingham blues legend Barry Middleton. 47071. Accordingly, owners invested heavily in their dance floors and updated, renovated or replaced them at regular intervals. 99104. London, The National Archives, BT 31/24605/155007, Hammersmith Palais de Danse (191932). Used to be a group around at that time called the "Jaybirds."