I think the linked build is patently bad. :^). As far as psion goes, I've played around with the schools and it feels really overpowered. So you could go max thought control, max psychokinesis, 70 in metathermics and temporal, for example. Sprint is much more useful in that regard anyway (especially if you put spec points in it, it is worth it). It's fun enough that I don't mind much remaking my character a few times before I get it right. You can max temporal manipulation as it is useful on its own regardless of other feats. However you are over looking so many things. That lets you steal one item from almost everyone you meet. Underrail Expedition Review | Subterranean Loading Screen Simulator SsethTzeentach 1.27M subscribers Subscribe 114K Share 4.5M views 3 years ago If pain makes us grow, Underrail makes me rock. And it has max investment in stealth. Then start the fight. Stealth is limited on how it gives you an advantage in a fight. Casino Underrail - a .44 Hammerer build. Thanks for the insight Bjorn, Im planning this to be hard difficulty to get used to it. - 1.16.5. Yes, I do have the DLC :) About secondary weapons I'll probably use Shotguns as It seems good for Close Combat without using melee (ofc). Also affects numerous aspects of stealth combat. As you have probably discovered, stealthy melee assassin is great for taking out lone or few targets silently, but struggles with groups, long range foes and heavily armored foes. Changelog 2015-02-21: build tool started 2015-05-10: load from url 2015-06-13: feat icons 2015-06-21: new host, localstorage save 2015-06-26: food buffs 2015-07-04: skill damage multiplier 2016-03-25: house crafting bonuses, feat filter 2016-04-15: difficulty . It's not doing anything for you. Played a non psi version through Normal mode and it was a cakewalk: https://underrail.info/build/?HgMIBwMPAwcARsKgACPCoGdQRgBBWm03I10AAAAcMwBMASYnMCI1woDCo0xLAjhqM8K1woUP4qGkBeKnvgrfvw. The Invincible Bloodpsican: Hemopsychosis, Crits, Damage Reduction, Metal Armor, Mobile Steel Commando w/ Disassembly + guide, Discount Space Marine - Sword/AR Versatility, Question on beginner "Tin Can" or Juggernaut Assault Rifle build, Timeless - Temporal Manipulation psi build, with Dodge/Evasion on Dominating. Thanks a lot bud. Underrail builds. Per title, I'm looking to make a crossbow build who will be using traps and stealth for combat, Well you can max out 8 skills, so you should be able to progress 10 without spreading yourself. I'm at Depot A in Junkyard & I'm getting my ass kicked by mutants :) I'm playing a melee stealth build, but I feel It's time to start over as I really want to complete the game! The early game was a bit of a struggle, acclimatizing myself to Hard mode after several normal mode runs.Specially the beast fight was annoying. Hello! HELP!!! Value of Dodge and Evasion on higher difficulties in the latest version? All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Congrats man! At least I have a basic idea, i was honestly walking in the dark.If I can afford Ill add an SMG, but i'm thinking of a 44. hammerer if not. The Stealth skill is used for sneaking around undetected. See Stealth Mode for details on stealth mechanics. Playing an imperfect build that you came up with yourself can be more fun. Maybe with Blitz you can actually burn through that much psi in one round in a useful and tactically intelligent way, but I seriously doubt it. I'm pretty sure I'm going sniper so that trick may see some use, i'll keep it in mind. If that was you , def post your build and fighting tips plz. Other feats I'd drop: neurology & meditation. Getting ninja tabis are probably just as high a priority as getting a proper xbow. This build is not a full psi build. Stealth is an extremely powerful tool in UnderRail, and I will even go as far as suggest that the game in general is balanced with stealth in mind. Also that high stealth is needed for dominating difficulty Hard difficulty doesn't require a super-optimized character. Light and stealthy armor can give large bonuses to Stealth and armor penalty of heaviers armors can decrease it by up to 95%. 130 needed for best tier Plasma Grenades. Also, even when it does activate, the resulting damage is typically unimpressive, because, barring incredible luck with RNG, it's not feasible to massively stack up TD on many targets simultaneously. Depends on points. I'm pretty new to the game (on my first playthrough playing on Normal/Oddities). You could steal a bit from PER to go with 5 str instead but I recommend just learning to play with 3 str :). 7 int. Even a little investment in Throwing and Traps goes a long way. This page was last edited on 14 October 2017, at 08:06. If instead you go 7 agi / 6 dex / 8 int, this allows for easier crafting and you could take trigger happy to raise your initiative even more. Here is my crossbow, traps, stealth build. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Oh and also, is any social skill worth it at all? And it has max investment in stealth. Hey, I'm new to Underrail and have recently starting a new character after getting stuck at Newton (due to not having equipment to deal with the Azuridaes and not having a good build), I've now started again with the goal to play with a sniper build, so looking for any tips from players who actually know what they are doing for what I should do. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), underrail.com/forums/index.php?topic=1281.0, https://www.youtube.com/user/NerdCommandoGames. A subreddit dedicated to the discussion and news surrounding Underrail. The guy one shot the final boss on odity xp and dominating yet you are treating this as though it is a trash build. When a pipeworker asks you for a spare coin. Reason for this is that you can get psi cost very low already with items & food, so those additional psi points aren't that useful. Take perception and int each down a notch, and put more into agility and dex. The two weapon slots in inventory are separate. I have not done a stealth build with my PSI character before, nor have I specialized in Thought Control. Particularly if your main ability involves a soundless attack. I use them but never in such large amounts. Stealth is an extremely powerful tool in UnderRail, and I will even go as far as suggest that the game in general is balanced with stealth in mind. And it requires 7 Agi. Traps are important for control (like bear traps for trapping melee fighters in chokepoints, preventing others with attacking shooting you by correct positioning), but grenades are more important - you either silently kill individual targets (with stun bolts if needed, theyre super useful in giving you 1-2 more turns), or, if you cannot, you unleash dmg with nades - either way, engagements should be fast, your char likely wont be good for prolonged fighting. I would call these flavor not optimal. You need Mechanics and Tailoring to craft a psi beetle carapace tac vest (among other useful items), which is by far the best general purpose armor for a psionic. Tailoring for your leather armor (stealthy) and boots. https://www.stygiansoftware.com/wiki/index.php?title=Stealth&oldid=29533. requirement, but the optimal range you wanna stay at is much higher. Neural overload is a silent stealth kill on a stealth character. Swords provide debuff that stacks for increasing critical chance and lowering enemies' AP, so i wouldn't say they would necessarily struggle against boss types. Hot Topic (More than 15 replies) For slower, harder hitting weapons I'd focus on crits. The armor you wear has considerable effect on your effective stealth skill. 2 Replies 611 Views December 07, 2022, 07:24:11 am by . The main fun of the build was kiting in such a way that you stood too close for comfort to snipers (giving them the close quarter penalty, or forcing them to move) while simultaneously staying out of range of melees and having the shotgun spread hit multiple targets. You can buy them or find them. Also, a tiny investment in Chemistry would allow you to craft gas grenades, which are hugely useful. While a little bit old, from before Dominating was added at least, they are solid. Obviously this is not a crafting character. ), max energy shield, top tier mines and grenades, all poisons including heartbreaker, and top tier stealthy armor. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), underrail.info.tm/build/?FAsLBwUDAwUAKABuKABubm4AAG5uDw9uAAAAAAAAAA45T8KZBjwLwqsQE1LCgt-_, underrail.info.tm/build/?HgsLBwUDAwYAKADCoCgAwqDCoMKgAADCoMKgAA_CoAAAAAAAAEEOOU_CmQY8C8KrEBNSwoJCAEvCthLfvw, underrail.info.tm/build/?HgMQCQUDAwcAFwDCoMKgwqBLYDIAL2ZmAABmAAAAAAAAVE8kMSldMMKZBhITQTwLS8Kz378, underrail.info.tm/build/?FA8HBwUDAwUAbgBuKAAAbmwgAGReAABPAAAAAABhAMKCOcKVwq8TwpTCq8KsBkvCkxLfvw, underrail.info.tm/build/?CgMMCgMDBQYAPAA8AgA8NB4APDQANAA0AAAAAAAAADE5JjAGXAvfvw. All rights reserved. highly recommended. The skills are exactly as I intended, but having the numbers is a big help. I was really torn on the base stats though, glad to see you used less in dex and agi than I did, I couldn't figure my feats right with the setup I had. Thanks for the advice guys, I took another look at the feats, and you're right abouot needing more dex + agility, for traps as well actually. Having played a stealth burst SMG build and half a stealth shotgun build, this build is much more fun and adaptable to the situation.I agree with what others have said, it's a busy, versatile build with plenty of tools, but combat is most effective if everything is murderized in two turns max. o7, Aww Thank you!! Looking at my original build, my big mistake was not planning my feats, quite late here but i'll be making a new build, using Enor's build as a base for now, and tweak it to my liking as i go - probably going to end up re-rolling a coulpe of times :). Neural overload is a silent stealth kill on a stealth character. Valve Corporation. and our For crafting you can make a max quality xbow (if you actually find max ingredients! But the small investment in psi will help greatly against the 2-3 late game enemy types that are rarely encountered but otherwise fairly difficult to fight with throwing weapons. Some merchants sell the needed ingredients. Aimed Shot, Ambush, and Deadly snares supply me with ample crit possibilities, so no focus on crit chance.Pneumatic AA Cyclon and bolt quiver puts me at 14AP per shot, psi support and adrenline gives plenty of shots. to fix the link. It is a 'busy' build. Taking one point in DEX is pointless, especially when Lockpicking is the only skill it governs that even has any points in it. All rights reserved. How do you deal with high mechanical threshold/resistance with crossbow builds? Privacy Policy. Valve Corporation. 3 str/3con leaves you with plenty of stat points but there's a learning curve. Other than that, I don't think you should have any problems on Hard. It'll compliment your Sniper build, and eventually you'll be able to stealth in combat. Very interesting build for sure. Persuasion and Intimidation are both massively overcapped. Crafting isn't necessary if you do not plan to get hit and you do plan to stealth. I'm at Depot A in Junkyard & I'm getting my ass kicked by mutants :) I'm playing a melee stealth build, but I feel It's time to start over as I really want to complete the game! Obviously having all is great, but in your opinion, which one is most and least important? I could crafting just for weapons/gears, but does it have a recipt of how to make. High mobility for a psi build.Thought Control has no ways of dealing wi. I'm having real fun w it :3 Just wanted to let you know!! Can you provide me with the best stats and skills for stealth? Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Also affects numerous aspects of stealth combat. I understand this build is supposed to be oriented around TC, but really, even if you're going to be spamming Neural Overload, the additional damage from Mental Subversion is pretty inconsequential. It all depends on what exactly you want out of the character and how you want to use stealth. It has flaws. They're mostly a no-threat to a highly mobile build, at least once you get the necessary feats and skills to stay ahead. Let's see how Depot A goes tho hehe ^^, Makes me glad you like it just as much as i do :D. Yis I managed to finish it pretty easily! Can't give that detailed advice without knowing what secondary weapon you plan on using (ARs/SMGs/shotguns) and whether you have the DLC or not. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Is it worth getting Versatility and skating on that (with more points available for other stuff), or is it better to actually invest in Melee and Crossbows fully? Purchase: Account - Platinum Upgrade - New Avatar - Archives - No-Ads - New Username - Donate on Patreon - Banner Advertisement - Smilie - Stick Thread - Gift Cert. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. It can expand all vendor inventories with Mercantile checks. It is a THOUGHT CONTROL neural overload build. Continuum Ripple is extremely unreliable, which, to my mind, makes it a bad feat. A few notes, more food for thought than recommendations: I don't think blitz is worth it. Oh, I actually read some of your other posts and realized you don't seem to want knife anymore. :D I'm at Core City rn for the first time!! I played a sniper that worked okay for a while, I could one hit my target, but then I'd get swarmed by his friends. Thanks. Decreases the chance that you'll be spotted while in stealth mode. I'd recommend Stealth (as someone who abhors stealth). Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Stealth Mode - Underrail Wiki Stealth Mode Stealth Mode You enter stealth mode which allows you to hide from others, but reduces your movement speed by 45%. The crafting skill investment is seriously lacking. Hacking: . The high AP-cost of snipers mean that a missed shot is very costly for you. You don't have to overthink it, aim for level 14, most of your build should be working by then, since you only have 4 intelligence, it will take a little more to finish up Lockpick and Hacking. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MTseAjhW_vJCJ316P39EzR0lAzTdzhJua12ZeTuAQmg/edit#, https://underrail.info/build/?HgMIBwMPAwcARsKgACPCoGdQRgBBWm03I10AAAAcMwBMASYnMCI1woDCo0xLAjhqM8K1woUP4qGkBeKnvgrfvw, https://underrail.info/build/?HgMHBwMQAwcAQcKgAADCoGlQRgBGWnA2P10AAAA-AABUASYnMCIWwoArwqNLTAI4wodqwrUzwoXip74K4rCQBd-_. Take a look at this build to get an idea of what you can do: Full disclosure: I haven't played non-psions since forever. Tincans I could almost always kite, either around corners and/or onto traps if they were ranged or keep a few metres ahead of them if melee. I wasn't aware about the open turn mechanic with stealth, that's actually very helpful thank you. Let's Play Underrail. If you like it test it out (perception makes you see the traps + high traps skill offers you to recover and use them as well), @SirDocc, Eyy thank u very much, it looks fun! Which crafting disciplines are most important? It was pretty useful. They absolutely melt to the bio damage enhanced by the Cave Ear poison. Very Hot Topic (More than 25 replies), Login with username, password and session length, A Detailed Psi Guide | for new and experienced players | all schools, Death's Door Fistfighter - Survival Instincts + Combat Gloves. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. First of, you have to keep in mind that stealth is kind of self-contained stat/skill wise: Next after melee assassins that got the drop on me, my worst enemy were psi-users since I didn't really get to build my resolve in any way and dopplegangers blocked my shots a lot. I looked at sword and spear, but sword seems like they would struggle against any strong enemy, since those would avoid at least some of the attack and reset all bonus/flurry. I'm guessing traps work better with a stealth build over grenades? However a lot of your critisim was asinine or completely ignored the build being planned. Valve Corporation. Currently running this https://underrail.info/build/?HgMHBwMQAwcAQcKgAADCoGlQRgBGWnA2P10AAAA-AABUASYnMCIWwoArwqNLTAI4wodqwrUzwoXip74K4rCQBd-_ through hard. Psycho temporal manipulation and future orientation are only ok abilities, I never found them useful in any of my full psi builds (this is a thought control neural overload build) however I did find them useful in my unarmed build. It is a THOUGHT CONTROL neural overload build. You'll need those for your stealth skills. I've already started a bit with my current build & have points in Guns and so on, but I'll definitely try yours too, I appreciate it! Yeah, it's a complex but very rewarding system. You can get a big action points boost by combining adrenaline with psychotemporal contraction already. Leave just a 1 tile path around the outside for you to retreat. Sorry if my post seems fragmented, I wrote as I was reading your build. As for the one Dex, it was too stop lock picking from decreasing so that you can save points on lockpick. A stealthy trapper with xbow is one of my favorite builds. other skils are throwing, traps, biology, mechanics, electronics and tailoring. A gimmick psi build. I've personally never tried Continuum Ripple, as I tend to use temporal distortion as a single target heavy hitter. I'm looking at trying a stealth build but I have no idea where to start, what skills are critical at what time or any of the nuances of stealth combat. All of the best abilities in TM literally don't even scale at all with effective skill, while Metathermics has the best AoE damage abilities in the game. Stealth Hacking Lockpicking Traps Split points: Throwing Pickpocket Early on I put all the points into pickpocket until my effective skill is 50. While I agree with some of your points I disagree with others. ), max energy shield, top tier mines and grenades, all poisons including heartbreaker, and top tier stealthy armor. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Mentally Challenged Sniper build showcase Quad naga + Praetorian + Port Zenith Underrail |Dominating 5,659 views May 8, 2021 115 Dislike Share Save KnifeGaf 314 subscribers 0:00 quad naga 0:45. Now the only thing you need to do is throw gas grenades. Hello! When a pipeworker asks you for a spare coin. Maxing Temporal Manipulation while not maxing Metathermics is just nonsensical. And start taking part in conversations all trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other.! Mind, makes it a bad feat, at 08:06 2017, at 08:06 put all the into! Traps Split points: Throwing Pickpocket Early on I put all the points into Pickpocket my. 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